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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-13 14:32:25
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I managed to avoid much spendiness over Xmas but I spotted a Peavey Windsor
head in the Sound Control sale at Ł180. Its a 100w 4xEL34 head which I
originally tried at the Ł200 (down from Ł350) but didnt buy because its
such a big beast and Im trying not to buy bulky items if possible. When I
got to Sound Control I couldnt see the amp in its usual place and had a
quick scout about but didnt spot it, so assumed with slight relief it ha
been sold, so the temptation was assuaged.

I checked about some other gear which didnt work out but asked about the
Peavey just in case any other branches still had them *but* it was still in
the shop. I decided to try it out with a reverb pedal in the fx loop and
found it was still as much fun as before. Its the only amp Ive managed to
get that filthy crunch/breakup Jeff Baxter got on Boston Rag. Its a bit
bass-light but I should have fun modding it if necessary. I like the
ClassA-A/B knob which is fun to use while playing. Going from A-ish to full
A/B (with the pre-amp gain adjusted too AFAIK) is cracking Grommet. FJA do
some interesting mods inc. a Cornford style case, which I may copy.

BTW Music Ground(/Rockers) in Leeds have their Rockers branded PRS-ish
style at Ł129 for a set-neck mahogany construction and very PRS-ish trem
unit. Definitely a cut above most budget guitars and, while they last, my
recommendation for that style/price-range.

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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-14 00:09:09
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icarusi wrote:

> I managed to avoid much spendiness over Xmas but I spotted a Peavey Windsor
> head in the Sound Control sale at Ł180. Its a 100w 4xEL34 head which I
> originally tried at the Ł200 (down from Ł350) but didnt buy because its
> such a big beast and Im trying not to buy bulky items if possible. When I
> got to Sound Control I couldnt see the amp in its usual place and had a
> quick scout about but didnt spot it, so assumed with slight relief it ha
> been sold, so the temptation was assuaged.
>
> I checked about some other gear which didnt work out but asked about the
> Peavey just in case any other branches still had them *but* it was still in
> the shop. I decided to try it out with a reverb pedal in the fx loop and
> found it was still as much fun as before. Its the only amp Ive managed to
> get that filthy crunch/breakup Jeff Baxter got on Boston Rag. Its a bit
> bass-light but I should have fun modding it if necessary. I like the
> ClassA-A/B knob which is fun to use while playing. Going from A-ish to full
> A/B (with the pre-amp gain adjusted too AFAIK) is cracking Grommet. FJA do
> some interesting mods inc. a Cornford style case, which I may copy.

Im feeling jealous.

Its years since I had an EL34-based amp (one of those Orange
Graphic 120-watt heads and a matching 4x12 which I couldnt lift
into or out of the car) and Im thinking of having one custom-made by
an ex-Jennings man of my acquaintance. Only 50 watts, though.

> BTW Music Ground(/Rockers) in Leeds have their Rockers branded PRS-ish
> style at Ł129 for a set-neck mahogany construction and very PRS-ish trem
> unit. Definitely a cut above most budget guitars and, while they last, my
> recommendation for that style/price-range.

After reading a mag review of the Peerless Wizard (in which it was
stated that the neck P90 is a centimetre from the strings), my
feelings of new guitar GAS have subsided. And besides, I keep
remembering that I have a new guitar up in the loft (still in its box)
that arrived in May 2006 and has not been touched since...


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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-14 00:54:41
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JNugent wrote in message
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> Its years since I had an EL34-based amp (one of those Orange Graphic
> 120-watt heads and a matching 4x12 which I couldnt lift into or out of
> the car) and Im thinking of having one custom-made by an ex-Jennings man
> of my acquaintance. Only 50 watts, though.

I went round to Matamp to see if they had any 2xEL84 amps but they only have
2xEL84s (or 4xEL84s) in their range. I was tempted by the Univalve,
Bi-Valve, Flexi-50, Engl preamp, Tiny Terror, Epiphone Jr., Minimat and
Grainger Hammerhead, but the Windsor has that driven Class A/B sound to a
degree I cant seem to hear on the other amps I tried. I did try some
Rothwell pedals into a small Marshall at the Leeds guitar show which were
getting close, but even Steward Ward wasnt able to identify what I was
describing. I heard it sometimes as cone breakup but it wasnt at high
enough sound levels for the speakers to be physically so non-linear. Ive a
suspicion its something going non-linear at the phase splitter or lack of
feedback loop, or similar. BTW someone is using this head with 2xEL34s so if
you have the room give the Windsor a go.

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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-14 05:50:26
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On 14 Jan, 00:09, JNugent
wrote:
> icarusi wrote:
> > I managed to avoid much spendiness over Xmas but I spotted a Peavey Wind=
sor
> > head in the Sound Control sale at Ł180. Its a 100w 4xEL34 head which =
I
> > originally tried at the Ł200 (down from Ł350) but didnt buy because=
its
> > such a big beast and Im trying not to buy bulky items if possible. When=
I
> > got to Sound Control I couldnt see the amp in its usual place and had =
a
> > quick scout about but didnt spot it, so assumed with slight relief it h=
a
> > been sold, so the temptation was assuaged.
>
> > I checked about some other gear which didnt work out but asked about th=
e
> > Peavey just in case any other branches still had them *but* it was still=
in
> > the shop. I decided to try it out with a reverb pedal in the fx loop and=

> > found it was still as much fun as before. Its the only amp Ive managed=
to
> > get that filthy crunch/breakup Jeff Baxter got on Boston Rag. Its a bit=

> > bass-light but I should have fun modding it if necessary. I like the
> > ClassA-A/B knob which is fun to use while playing. Going from A-ish to f=
ull
> > A/B (with the pre-amp gain adjusted too AFAIK) is cracking Grommet. FJA=
do
> > some interesting mods inc. a Cornford style case, which I may copy.
>
> Im feeling jealous.
>
> Its years since I had an EL34-based amp (one of those Orange
> Graphic 120-watt heads and a matching 4x12 which I couldnt lift
> into or out of the car) and Im thinking of having one custom-made by
> an ex-Jennings man of my acquaintance. Only 50 watts, though.
>

Which is one of the reasons that I picked up an old Carlsbro 50 Top
via eBay... A quick fettling by Sir Trev of Ridneyshire, and it now
barks like a Rottweiler thats been poked with a very sharp stick. /
me is a happy bunny indeed :-)

Ive recently bought a Torres Power Soak kit[1], which Im looking
forward to building - should (literally) be a blast to play the 50 at
top whack!


Ross
[1] http://www.torresamps.com/Power%20Reduction.htm

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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-17 19:51:50
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:50:26 -0800 (PST), Ross Edwards
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>
>Which is one of the reasons that I picked up an old Carlsbro 50 Top
>via eBay... A quick fettling by Sir Trev of Ridneyshire, and it now
>barks like a Rottweiler thats been poked with a very sharp stick. /
>me is a happy bunny indeed :-)
>

I would have thought being a bunny in the near vicinity of a
rottweiler thats been repeatedly poked with a sharp stick wasnt a
very good idea at all..... ;->
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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-18 11:38:01
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icarusi wrote in message
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> Its the only amp Ive managed to get that filthy crunch/breakup Jeff
> Baxter got on Boston Rag. Its a bit bass-light but I should have fun
> modding it if necessary. I like the ClassA-A/B knob which is fun to use
> while playing. Going from A-ish to full A/B (with the pre-amp gain
> adjusted too AFAIK) is cracking Grommet. FJA do some interesting mods
> inc. a Cornford style case, which I may copy.

Some pics of the Peavey Windsor chassis here:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20652442@N05/sets/72157603742385408/

It does have ceramic valve bases. The supplied valves are 4x Ruby EL34BSTR
and 3x JJ ECC83S. The quality of electronics assemby and components look
reasonably good (not that Ive checked anything similar to this recently)
for something in this budget. There doesnt seem to be any diodes in the
distortion circuit, although without checking the circuit, the 4 closer to
the preamp valves may not be forming a rectifier for power supply, although
it does seem DC quiet for a high gain amp. The 2 preamp valves are set
deep in the chassis and not easy to grip, changing the first one inside the
casing wouldnt be easy. The various boards and larger components use
connectors of various types, good for disassembly (and initial assembly) but
can be a future source of problems in a hot vibrating location. Swing and
roundabouts.

The only slight criticism I would have, is how the rear grill locates and
fixes. Its pressed as a channel which mounts over two blocks at either
end of the casing, and then secures by 4 screws and cup washers through the
grill holes into those mounts. The grill needs to be pushed upwards for the
screw holes to align and its too easy when trying to insert the screw and
washer, to lose grip on the grill and let it slip from the mounts to bash
against the valves just behind. Also the black grill, screws and washers are
difficult enough to see in good light but would be a real problem in poor
light. Ill probably glue the cup washers to the grill and consider some
additonal protective posts either side of the power valves. There are 4
screws which secure the rear chassis flange to the case, but unscrewing then
brought some of the particle board with the threads such that 2 now dont
tighten fully. Nothing that a matchstick and glue wont fix but the original
fixing could probably have been better with different screw types. The mains
transformer is 210-220v only, no 110v tap, although the circuit board does
specify the right fuses for 220v or 110v operation which some multivoltage
kit fails to point out (110v kit operates at twice the current of 220v kit
for the same wattage). On the plus side all the knobs go up to 12, which is
2 louder!

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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-18 21:43:18
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icarusi wrote in message
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> icarusi wrote in message
> news:13ol82o1p6cvpba@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > Its the only amp Ive managed to get that filthy crunch/breakup Jeff
> > Baxter got on Boston Rag. Its a bit bass-light but I should have fun
> > modding it if necessary. I like the ClassA-A/B knob which is fun to use
> > while playing. Going from A-ish to full A/B (with the pre-amp gain
> > adjusted too AFAIK) is cracking Grommet. FJA do some interesting mods
> > inc. a Cornford style case, which I may copy.
>
> Some pics of the Peavey Windsor chassis here:-
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20652442@N05/sets/72157603742385408/
>
> It does have ceramic valve bases. The supplied valves are 4x Ruby EL34BSTR
> and 3x JJ ECC83S. The quality of electronics assemby and components look
> reasonably good (not that Ive checked anything similar to this recently)
> for something in this budget. There doesnt seem to be any diodes in the
> distortion circuit, although without checking the circuit, the 4 closer to
> the preamp valves may not be forming a rectifier for power supply,
although
> it does seem DC quiet for a high gain amp. The 2 preamp valves are set
> deep in the chassis and not easy to grip, changing the first one inside
the
> casing wouldnt be easy. The various boards and larger components use
> connectors of various types, good for disassembly (and initial assembly)
but
> can be a future source of problems in a hot vibrating location. Swing and
> roundabouts.
>
> The only slight criticism I would have, is how the rear grill locates and
> fixes. Its pressed as a channel which mounts over two blocks at either
> end of the casing, and then secures by 4 screws and cup washers through
the
> grill holes into those mounts. The grill needs to be pushed upwards for
the
> screw holes to align and its too easy when trying to insert the screw and
> washer, to lose grip on the grill and let it slip from the mounts to bash
> against the valves just behind. Also the black grill, screws and washers
are
> difficult enough to see in good light but would be a real problem in poor
> light. Ill probably glue the cup washers to the grill and consider some
> additonal protective posts either side of the power valves. There are 4
> screws which secure the rear chassis flange to the case, but unscrewing
then
> brought some of the particle board with the threads such that 2 now dont
> tighten fully. Nothing that a matchstick and glue wont fix but the
original
> fixing could probably have been better with different screw types. The
mains
> transformer is 210-220v only, no 110v tap, although the circuit board does
> specify the right fuses for 220v or 110v operation which some multivoltage
> kit fails to point out (110v kit operates at twice the current of 220v kit
> for the same wattage). On the plus side all the knobs go up to 12, which
is
> 2 louder!
>
> icarusi
> --

In the shop where I work, the Windsor has been the fave last week.
Some guy ordered it, and forgot it. OK, lets connect it somewhere..

Cynics that we are, we connected it to a Marshall 1960 cab and expected a
laugh,
but it really does sound quite good. Pricewise youd be hard pressed to do
better in EL34 amps.

Ivar


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 Post subject: New Year GAS
PostPosted: 2008-01-18 14:43:26
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Ivar Arnesen wrote in message
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> In the shop where I work, the Windsor has been the fave last week.
> Some guy ordered it, and forgot it. OK, lets connect it somewhere..
>
> Cynics that we are, we connected it to a Marshall 1960 cab and expected a
> laugh,
> but it really does sound quite good. Pricewise youd be hard pressed to do
> better in EL34 amps.

Which way did you prefer the texture control? I liked the full-on driven
class A/B, which was what I was after, but the more class A setting had a
good tone too and handy to dial between the two. I managed to get more bass
by using more of the resonance control which seems to be a variable
speaker LF damping. I havent quite got the breakup sound I was getting
into the 4x12 in the shop but Ill try putting some boost in the fx loop.

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