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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-02-28 20:29:04
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Thinking of buying one of these.

Anybody tried one?


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-02-29 16:53:38
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Bren wrote in news:62ojsfF24mi8vU1
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> Thinking of buying one of these.
>
> Anybody tried one?

I have one, although its not quite a 335 as the body is smaller.
Its an excellent guitar, with a solid carved maple top (as opposed
to the usual laminate). The setup when I bought it (via eBay) was
pretty terrible, but after a once over, it plays really well. The
tuners look and feel to touch, really flimsy and a bit cheap, but
they are rock solid on the tuning front. Pick ups sound very good
indeed, although they are a touch bright and work well. The roll
control is of limited usefulness as it sounds very thin and, TBH,
a regular tone control would have been better, but that can be fixed
easily.

Bridge and tailpiece are OK and, all in all, its hard to fault at
the price. I tried it side by side with my genuine Gibson 335 and
it was pretty good - way better than an Epi 335 fared. The Gibson
had a shade more depth, and was slightly mellower at the top end. On
overdrive, there really wasnt a lot in it. If you can get over the
label, youre getting a *lot* of guitar for the money.

Ive gigged with this guitar and its pretty robust, with good live
sound through a tube amp and rock solid tuning. I paid Ł210 for
it from an eBay trader, but it arrived badly shook up in transit
because of poor packing - this might have also been the cause of the
poor set-up but, after Ł30 spent on a setup, its a really good guitar.

The reason I bought the guitar was because I needed something to gig
with as I was too scared to take the Gibson. Its filled the bill
really well.


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-02-29 21:16:14
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soupdragon wrote:

> Bren wrote:

>> Thinking of buying one of these.
>> Anybody tried one?

> I have one, although its not quite a 335 as the body is smaller.
> Its an excellent guitar, with a solid carved maple top (as opposed
> to the usual laminate). The setup when I bought it (via eBay) was
> pretty terrible, but after a once over, it plays really well. The
> tuners look and feel to touch, really flimsy and a bit cheap, but
> they are rock solid on the tuning front. Pick ups sound very good
> indeed, although they are a touch bright and work well. The roll
> control is of limited usefulness as it sounds very thin and, TBH,
> a regular tone control would have been better, but that can be fixed
> easily. [ ... ]

A solid *carved* maple top?

Really?

That would make it equivalent to the top-flight of the Gibson / Heritage
/ Guild-Benedetto ranges (and way better than the actual 335 / ES175 /
Lucille, etc, all of which have pressed ply tops).


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-02-29 22:06:13
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JNugent wrote in message
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> soupdragon wrote:
>
>> Bren wrote:
>
>>> Thinking of buying one of these.
>>> Anybody tried one?
>
>> I have one, although its not quite a 335 as the body is smaller.
>> Its an excellent guitar, with a solid carved maple top (as opposed
>> to the usual laminate). The setup when I bought it (via eBay) was
>> pretty terrible, but after a once over, it plays really well. The tuners
>> look and feel to touch, really flimsy and a bit cheap, but
>> they are rock solid on the tuning front. Pick ups sound very good
>> indeed, although they are a touch bright and work well. The roll
>> control is of limited usefulness as it sounds very thin and, TBH, a
>> regular tone control would have been better, but that can be fixed
>> easily. [ ... ]
>
> A solid *carved* maple top?
>
> Really?
>
> That would make it equivalent to the top-flight of the Gibson / Heritage /
> Guild-Benedetto ranges (and way better than the actual 335 / ES175 /
> Lucille, etc, all of which have pressed ply tops).

The carved maple top is *one* of the things that attracted me to this
guitar. Also (from the website)

the Vintage AV3 is carved from a solid block of premium mahogany, resulting
in a reduced weight acoustically chambered body with solid centre block.



Solid block of premium mahogany ??!!



Where would you get this kind of build quality for less than Ł1 - 1 1/2 k ?



And Wilkinson hardware has built up a very good reputation in recent years!


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-03-01 05:17:32
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Ive had a couple of Vintages in the past (SG copy & electro-dobro)
and they were both great guitars for the money (Ł100 & Ł150 second-
hand, respectively). I just wish theyd make an ES125 copy - that
would definitely open the piggy-bank.


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-03-01 20:38:27
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JNugent wrote in
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> soupdragon wrote:
>
>> Bren wrote:
>
>>> Thinking of buying one of these.
>>> Anybody tried one?
>
>> I have one, although its not quite a 335 as the body is smaller.
>> Its an excellent guitar, with a solid carved maple top (as opposed
>> to the usual laminate). The setup when I bought it (via eBay) was
>> pretty terrible, but after a once over, it plays really well. The
>> tuners look and feel to touch, really flimsy and a bit cheap, but
>> they are rock solid on the tuning front. Pick ups sound very good
>> indeed, although they are a touch bright and work well. The roll
>> control is of limited usefulness as it sounds very thin and, TBH,
>> a regular tone control would have been better, but that can be fixed
>> easily. [ ... ]
>
> A solid *carved* maple top?
>
> Really?

Really! Its something of a selling point by Vintage.
Also see the Guitarist review about 9 months back who
commented on it. Its made in China, so costs are much
lower.

>
> That would make it equivalent to the top-flight of the Gibson /
Heritage
> / Guild-Benedetto ranges (and way better than the actual 335 / ES175 /
> Lucille, etc, all of which have pressed ply tops).

Well, yes, but there are bits other than the top. The back and side
are routed from a single piece of mahogany - Tele Thinline style, which
is probably not quite as good as a built back and side. Also the neck
is spliced to the headstock to strengthen it in typical Chinese/Korean
style of starting around the 2nd fret, rather than the jazz style of
almost under the nut, and so better hidding it.


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 Post subject: Vintage AV3 - 335 copy
PostPosted: 2008-03-01 20:44:46
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Bren wrote in
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> JNugent wrote in message
> news:JJCdnRg62pC761XanZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d@pipex.net...
>> soupdragon wrote:
>>
>>> Bren wrote:
>>
>>>> Thinking of buying one of these.
>>>> Anybody tried one?
>>
>>> I have one, although its not quite a 335 as the body is smaller.
>>> Its an excellent guitar, with a solid carved maple top (as opposed
>>> to the usual laminate). The setup when I bought it (via eBay) was
>>> pretty terrible, but after a once over, it plays really well. The
>>> tuners look and feel to touch, really flimsy and a bit cheap, but
>>> they are rock solid on the tuning front. Pick ups sound very good
>>> indeed, although they are a touch bright and work well. The roll
>>> control is of limited usefulness as it sounds very thin and, TBH, a
>>> regular tone control would have been better, but that can be fixed
>>> easily. [ ... ]
>>
>> A solid *carved* maple top?
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> That would make it equivalent to the top-flight of the Gibson /
>> Heritage / Guild-Benedetto ranges (and way better than the actual 335
>> / ES175 / Lucille, etc, all of which have pressed ply tops).
>
> The carved maple top is *one* of the things that attracted me to this
> guitar. Also (from the website)
>
> the Vintage AV3 is carved from a solid block of premium mahogany,
> resulting in a reduced weight acoustically chambered body with solid
> centre block.
>
>
>
> Solid block of premium mahogany ??!!
>
>
>
> Where would you get this kind of build quality for less than Ł1 - 1
> 1/2 k ?

TBH I wouldnt describe the mahogany as premium. Premium mahogany has
very noticible banding. The back of my guitar is decidedly plain and
made with 3 pieces - reasonably matched, Id add.

> And Wilkinson hardware has built up a very good reputation in recent
> years!

Only the tuners and the pickups are Wilkinson. The rest is generic
Chinese including pots, jack socket bridge and stop bar, but it seems
to work reasonably well. As I said, Ive gigged this guitar for 4
months, twice a week, and it seems to be holding up.


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