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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 10:26:43
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Not what I wanted to hear, I tend to stop doing something once it
becomes the subject of exams:

from todays newsfeeds -

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The Registry of Guitar Tutors (RGT) has announced new formal
qualifications for would-be Bob Dylans and K.T. Tunstalls with the
launch of the first graded exams for acoustic guitarists. Although
graded exams for classical and electric guitar have been available for
some years, up until now there have been no specialist qualifications
available for acoustic guitar players anywhere in the world.

The exams have been developed by the RGT (the UK


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 14:28:13
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Thousands and thousands of people play guitar without taking exams. Why does
this worry you?

Angof

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> Not what I wanted to hear, I tend to stop doing something once it becomes
> the subject of exams:
>
> from todays newsfeeds -
>
> ---------
>
> The Registry of Guitar Tutors (RGT) has announced new formal
> qualifications for would-be Bob Dylans and K.T. Tunstalls with the launch
> of the first graded exams for acoustic guitarists. Although graded exams
> for classical and electric guitar have been available for some years, up
> until now there have been no specialist qualifications available for
> acoustic guitar players anywhere in the world.
>
> The exams have been developed by the RGT (the UK


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 14:46:09
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Angof wrote:
> Thousands and thousands of people play guitar without taking exams. Why does
> this worry you?


Because far fewer people play instruments for which the exam route is
normal!

It worries me because its almost impossible to do without setting a
curriculum with certain fixed styles, pieces etc. Within five years,
these styles and pieces become totally un-hip because they are in the exams.

I think the reason a lot of adult acoustic players dont touch nylon
string is because its what was handed out at school for learning
guitar. They miss out of course.

David


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 15:21:50
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David Kilpatrick wrote in message
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> Angof wrote:
>> Thousands and thousands of people play guitar without taking exams. Why
>> does this worry you?
>
>
> Because far fewer people play instruments for which the exam route is
> normal!
>
> It worries me because its almost impossible to do without setting a
> curriculum with certain fixed styles, pieces etc. Within five years, these
> styles and pieces become totally un-hip because they are in the exams.
>
> I think the reason a lot of adult acoustic players dont touch nylon
> string is because its what was handed out at school for learning guitar.
> They miss out of course.
>
> David

I would disagree, I think many people dont pick up a nylon string because of
the music that is associated with it, namely classical music. I dont think
you see nylon string guitars in popular culture and it is associated with
high culture and thus it isnt as attractive. Also steel strung acoustics
are more prominently sold in music shops. It is a cultural thing I think.

I think youre hypothesis has some bearing for those who played guitar at
school, but I personally think it is a minor consideration in terms of
general culture.

I agree that people are missing out though.

Angof


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 16:35:40
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*shrug*

The Rock School and RGT exams have been around for years, and I dont
see any decline in electric guitar playing. Some people just like an
objective benchmark of how well theyre doing.


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-08 19:37:48
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 16:35:40 +0100, Adrian Clark
wrote:
>Some people just like an
>objective benchmark of how well theyre doing.

Indeed. And for some its a useful target which encourages them to
practice and improve. Its not for everyone but some will find it
beneficial.

Cheers,
Steve W


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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-10 14:37:38
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On Thu, 8 May 2008 15:21:50 +0100, Angof wrote:

>
>David Kilpatrick wrote in message
>news:b5ednXOAfb6 mb7VnZ2dnUVZ8sjinZ2d@bt.com...
>> Angof wrote:
>>> Thousands and thousands of people play guitar without taking exams. Why
>>> does this worry you?
>>
>>
>> Because far fewer people play instruments for which the exam route is
>> normal!
>>
>> It worries me because its almost impossible to do without setting a
>> curriculum with certain fixed styles, pieces etc. Within five years, these
>> styles and pieces become totally un-hip because they are in the exams.
>>
>> I think the reason a lot of adult acoustic players dont touch nylon
>> string is because its what was handed out at school for learning guitar.
>> They miss out of course.
>>
>> David
>
>I would disagree, I think many people dont pick up a nylon string because of
>the music that is associated with it, namely classical music. I dont think
>you see nylon string guitars in popular culture and it is associated with
>high culture and thus it isnt as attractive. Also steel strung acoustics
>are more prominently sold in music shops. It is a cultural thing I think.
>
>I think youre hypothesis has some bearing for those who played guitar at
>school, but I personally think it is a minor consideration in terms of
>general culture.
>
>I agree that people are missing out though.
>
>Angof
>


Actually, over here in germany, nylon string guitars are considerably
more visible than in the UK, because of German folk music.

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 Post subject: Exams in acoustic guitar
PostPosted: 2008-05-11 10:48:00
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Adrian Clark wrote:
> *shrug*
>
> The Rock School and RGT exams have been around for years, and I dont
> see any decline in electric guitar playing. Some people just like an
> objective benchmark of how well theyre doing.
>
>
> adrian
>

Yes, David, Adrians right! Dont worry a jot, itll make no difference.

Grades are very different now too - they have a good deal more practical
use to a learning guitarist than the old grades did for non-classical
guitar. They were too similar to the classical model. Id happily teach
someone to the syllabus WITHOUT them doing the exams! Its a good
syllabus (Im talking here about the electric version of these new
acoustic grades).

Although, I am 100% with you. I dont think exams are what learning
music should be about at all. THere is simply no need for them with
talented and creative pupils. They do serve a purpose though, and that
purpose is NOT grading the pupil. The purpose is maintaining
motivation to pratice because of a somewhat imposing goal.


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