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Eh up,
Ive been having a look at the following article
http://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=198
and I think I may have finally made a personal breakthrough with
understanding modes but wanted to run it past you guys to make sure I was
right.

I know the fingering pattern for the dorian mode off by heartand after
looking at the table in the article I got to thinking that if I wanted to
play something in E Phrygian (for example) would I just use the D Dorian
shape? Or if I wanted to play in A Mixolydian would I just use the E Dorian
shape? Am I right or am I missing something?

Ill go now cos my brain hurts!!!

cheers
Fred

In article ,
Fred X wrote:


Yep, although you just need to make one little bit of extra effort...
rather than thinking of the notes youre playing as D dorian, think of
them as E phrygian. For instance, in D dorian, the note D is the root,
and therefore a stable note to rest on. In E phrygian, that D note is
the minor seventh, which has a totally different effect. But youve
already done the hard work, so yay to you!


Adrian

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Fred X wrote in message
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Another handy way to look at modes is to have a master scale (eg the
major scale) and relate each mode to that. So A Mixolydian would be A
major with a flat 7th, A Dorian would be A major with flat 3rd & flat
7th, E Phrygian would be E major with b2, b3, b6, b7 (phew!).

grant wrote:
[snip]

Or, more simply, E Phrygian is E natural minor with a b2 (the natural
minor already has the b3, b6 & b7).

I find it easier to group the modes into major and minor:

Major:

Ionian (major)
Mixolydian (major with b7)
Lydian (major with #4)

Minor:

Aeolian (natural minor)
Dorian (minor with #6)
Phrygian (minor with b2)
Locrian (minor with b2 & b5)

So there are fewer altered notes to remember - as long as you know the
major and minor scales

Dunno if that makes sense...

Mark

Mark Lamb wrote in message
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Good system.
Although, dorian is better expressed as minor with a natural 6 (1 2 b3 4 5
6 b7).
Sorry to be a pedantic bar-steward ;-)

Cheers, Dlg.

Yep, I think about them the same way!